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I just did an original peice of artwork inspired by the 1997 film "Jackie Brown" which ranks up there with one of my top 100 films of all-time. Sadly, "Jackie Brown" is often overlooked. When people talk about the film they usually call it Tarantino's worst film, or his bomb; they don't mention it as if it was a failure. Well yes, the movie didn't do as well as "Pulp" or the "Kill Bill" series but it is still a damn good film and I think it's time people recognize it.

It's no mystery that Quentin Tarantino is my very favorite filmmaker. Since I first saw his debut film, "Reservoir Dogs" back in the Summer of 1994, just a few months before his Palme D'Or winning classic "Pulp Fiction" was released in October. "Dogs" literally changed my life. It opened me up to independent films and introduced me to dialogue driven stroytelling. Not to mention a cast of unknown actors who would soon become some of my all-time faves. "Pulp Fiction" of course took the world by storm, ressurecting the career of John Travolta, giving a career to Samuel L. Jackson, and putting Tarantino at the top of the "A" list in Hollywood. The 1990s saw an explosion of fresh, new, exciting voices in the land of Indie filmmaking with Kevin Smith, Robert Rodriguez, Richard Linklater, Spike Lee, Michael Moore, Steven Soderberg, Peter Jackson, Paul Thomas Anderson and Jim Jarmusch. But it is safe to say that none of them inspired more copycats and recieved more acclaim than this hyper uber geek from California who started out the decade like his Indie brother Kevin Smith, working as a clerk at a video rental shop.

Needless to say, there was a lot of anticipation for Tarantino's follow up to "Pulp" and it took three years for something to arrive. In between he produced "Pulp" co-writer and ex-video store clerk pal Roger Avery's debut film "Killing Zoe", acted in a few Indie films like "Destiny Turns on the Radio" and wrote and starred in the blood and guts horror romp "From Dusk Till Dawn", directed by his best friend and life long collaborator Robert Rodriguez. Tarantino was talking about doing a remake of a 1970s Italian exploitation film called "The Inglorious Bastards" which had always been one of his favorite films. He also talked about doing a film called "The Vega Brothers" which would star Michael Madsen and John Travolta as Vic and Vincent Vega (The characters both stars played in Dogs and Pulp). Tarantino was also developing a big epic action flick in the vein of "Modesty Blaise" with Uma Thurman about an assassin known as "The Bride" that would eventually be called "Kill Bill". Tarantino had bought the rights to three novels by childhood hero, novelist Elmore Leonard. Elmore Leonard had began his writing career in the 1950s as a successful writer of westerns. A few of his novels, "Hombre", "3:10 to Yuma" and "Valdez is Coming" had been adapted into films. Then Leonard turned to writing crime fiction.

Anyone who has ever read the work of Elmore Leonard will instantly see the influence his novels had on Tarantino. Leonard's characters are usually bad people who are very likeable and human, they are also funny and a lot of their character comes from the way they talk. In fact, Leonard is perhaps one of the best handlers of dialogue than any of his fellow novelists. Tarantino essentially is a novelist; his films always break the rules and follow the structures of a novel. Most films are done in real time or in a straight forward sequence. Quentin decided to manipulate his audience like a novelist; letting scenes come whereever he needed them to, in order to make the story more compelling, tense and interesting. Flashbacks, flashforwards, half of the fun in his films is trying to figure out the hows, whats, wheres, whys and whens. The three novels that Tarantino bought the rights to were "Freaky Deaky", "Killshot" and "Rum Punch". It was believed that QT would direct "Killshot" and produce the other two films. But the more and more he thought about it, he really felt "Rum Punch" was the right film for him to do. Incidentally, Tarantino's first Leonard novel was "The Switch" which he admits he stole from a store when he was young. It just so happens that "Rum Punch" was a sequel to "The Switch". "The Switch" was about two low end thugs named Ordell Robbie and Louis Gara in Detroit who kidnap a housewife and hold her for ransom only to discover that her husband had already filed for divorce and didn't give a damn what they did with her. "Rum Punch" takes place about fifteen years later in Miami (most of Leonard's crime novels take place in Miami or Detroit) where Louis has just been released from serving four years in prison for bank robbery and has hooked back up with Ordell who is a gun runner, working for a man in Mexico. Ordell is about to hit the one million dollar mark and plans to retire only he has a problem. The middle-aged stewardess, Jackie Burke he has sneaking his money, little by little into the country has just been arrested by the police who they plan to cut a deal with to catch Ordell. Ordell plans to bail her out and murder her before she can rat him out but Jackie has a plan to get Ordell his money in one run, right under the noses of the police that he has no choice but to accept. But what he doesn't know is that Jackie is scamming not only the cops, but also Ordell.

QT had some ideas for "Rum Punch" however; most of which revolved around his choice for the actress who would play Jackie Burke in the film. One of Tarantino's favorite film genre's was blaxploitation from the 1970s. Growing up in the ghetto's of Knoxville and attending the grindhouses of Los Angeles as a preteen with mostly black audiences, he grew up deep in the black cinema culture. One of his favorite filmmakers was Jack Hill and one of his very favorite films ever was Hill's cult hit "Coffy" which starred actress Pam Grier. Grier was an icon of the 1970s but had sort of disappeared over the last twenty years, at least from the mainstream. Quentin had actually auditioned her for "Pulp Fiction" to play Jodie, Lance's bitchy wife only Eric Stoltz had already been cast as Lance and he didn't feel Eric would be able to yell at Pam Grier and it be believable. But he promised her that he was going to use her one day. When QT started thinking about the character of Jackie Burke he saw a woman in her 40s who looked like she was still in her mid-30s, strong, street smart, tough and cool. He said, "That sounds like Pam Grier." So Quentin saw a chance to sort of homage Jack Hill's films and changed Jackie Burke to Jackie Brown, a strong black woman. He also moved the setting from Miami to L.A. Quentin rounded out the cast with a great group of actors like Bridget Fonda (who he offered the role to after sharing a plane with her), Michael Keaton (who didn't think he was right for the role until filming began), Samuel L. Jackson (who "was" Ordell Robbie according to Quentin), Robert De Niro (who played a character unlike any other he had ever attempted), but his most questionable casting choice was forgotten character actor Robert Forster. Forster had always been one of Tarantino's favorite actors; in fact, he wrote the role Christopher Walken played in "True Romance" for him. He also auditioned Forster to play boss man Joe Cabot in "Dogs" but went with Lawrence Teirney instead. Robert Forster was perfect for Max Cherry, a bail bondsman who falls in love with Jackie when she becomes his client. In fact, Max Cherry is my favorite character in the film and a lot of it had to do with Forster's performance. Forster starred in a really cool viglante film in 1983 called appropriately "Viglante" which was directed by genre icon William Lustig and co-starred blaxploitation legend Fred Williamson.

Elmore Leonard has had over 30 novels and stories adapted to film and although Quentin changed a few major details in "Rum Punch", he not only felt that QT's script was the best adaptation of his work to date but it was perhaps the best screenplay he'd ever read, period. Tarantino really did capture Elmore's voice in the film; the movie also captures the coolness that Leonard's novels always have. The two men are very similar in the way they tell a story; Leonard was the perfect author for Tarantino to adapt from. Although it may be for this fact that "Jackie Brown" (Tarantino changed the title as well) is so knocked upon because it was the only peice Tarantino ever did that wasn't all his own. In fact, the most shocking part is if you read the novel you will be amazed at how much of the dialogue in the film actually comes straight from the novel. It just shows how these two men are similar in writing dialogue. Other Elmore Leonard adapted films to check out would be "Get Shorty", "Out of Sight", "Hombre", "Valdez is Coming", "3:10 to Yuma", "Joe Kidd", "Mr. Majestyk" and "Touch". "Killshot" (the novel Tarantino was going to adapt originally) has been made starring Diane Lane, Thomas Jane and Mickey Rourke and two more film adaptations are on the way, "Freaky Deaky" and "Sparks".
Another cool fact about Leonard's films: Michael Keaton's character in "Jackie Brown", Ray Nicolet, also appears in "Out of Sight" and Keaton reprised his role as Nicolet in "Out of Sight" as well for a nice little suprise for Leonard fans.

I assume the reason "Jackie Brown" is so overlooked or talked down about is because the movie wasn't very appealing to a wide audience. This movie didn't star Bruce Willis or John Travolta or Uma Thurman. It starred a 48 year-old black woman who hadn't starred in a film since the mid-1970s. But this is a reason the film should be respected. Who else but Quentin Tarantino could get the Weinstein's to give him a lot of change to make a big movie where the lead role in the film is a black woman nearing 50? Hollywood doesn't invest in this kind of film and I guess "Jackie Brown's" failure proves the theory right. People won't go out to see a film about a middle-aged black woman unless she's trying to get her groove back. But I challenge anyone to tell me "why" Jackie Brown is not a good film. In my opinion, it's a perfect caper film. The writing is up to par as always, it's a cool flick, with some great acting chops. Samuel L. Jackson's Ordell Robbie is in my opinion, one of the scariest bad guys ever put on screen and by far Jackson's most frightening character to date. Pam Grier is totally believable and proves that she deserves a second chance. Robert Forster is marvelous as Max Cherry, in fact I couldn't imagine another actor in the role. Forster's portrayal of Cherry's "seen-it-all" coolness is perfection. Cherry is my favorite character in the film. There is just no rattling him. The guy is cool as a cucumber, never impressed or scared of the criminals he deals with every day. Forster delivers a performance that deserves attention and recognition in the film. Michael Keaton is brilliant as Ray Nicolet and captures the "young guy who loves being a cop" visage of the character. He does with the character something that is very difficult to describe but it works so well it's amazing to me. Robert De Niro is halarious in the film. It just shows you what a master actor the man really is. His performance is so quiet and subtle and out there. Sam Jackson said he couldn't see what Bobby was doing on the set but when he saw the film he was in awe all over again. He said De Niro is like that; he sees something no one else sees and sometimes you yourself don't pick up on it until you actually see the performance on the screen. The supporting cast is also wonderful. Bridget Fonda as Melanie the beach bunny is perfect (you really want De Niro to shoot her ass...lol), Chris Tucker is funny as always and I've always been a fan of Michael Bowen who plays Keaton's partner, Mark Dargus. I believe it is one of the best heist movies ever put on film. It's just a great movie and I am always lost in why it gets so little respect.

One of the big issues in the film is the use of the "N" word in the movie. Spike Lee publicly bashed the film for it's overuse of the taboo word along with many other black figures. It is true that the word is heard throughout the film on a constant level. But it is always, mind you, said by the black characters in the film. Tarantino grew up in the black culture and let's face it, it's not that false to have a black man using that word loosely. Especially a man like Ordell Robbie. But you have to put some responsibility on the actors in the film. The scene that gets the most attention for using the "n" word so much is the scene between Sam Jackson and Chris Tucker when he visits him after bailing him out. I went and read the script Tarantino wrote and the word appears in the script "8" times in that one scene but in the film, Jackson and Tucker ab libbed and the word came out "13" times. Eight is enough as they say, but the two actors slipped out "5" extra "n" words just from "being in character." A lot of people point out that the blaxploitation films that Tarantino was trying to homage never used the "n" word that much. Jackson defends QT though. He once said, "Quentin thinks he's black."

As in all of Tarantino's films, the soundtrack to the film is pure gold. Only Scorsese uses source music as well as he does. The film is filled with great soul classics that really capture the film well. Great songs like "Didn't I blow your mind this time" by the Delfonics (which always makes me laugh when Max Cherry continously plays it in his car because it reminds him of Jackie), "Who is he?" is by Bill Withers is just cool as Hell and "Strawberry Letter 23" by Brothers Johnson really makes the scene where Jackson kills Tucker creepy cool. But is perhaps Bobby Womack's "Across 110th Street" which opens and closes "Jackie Brown" that really sets the mood of the film. I love the song and it's use. And in true Quentin fashion, the song was pulled from the 1972 blaxploitation film of the same name. Tarantino also pays homage to two Pam Grier films in "Jackie Brown" with his choice of music. Most of the film's score is pulled straight from the original score for "Coffy" and the song "Long Time Woman" was sung by a a 22-year old Pam Grier herself from her second film "The Big Doll House". Another note about Jackie Brown is that Pam's old co-star from many of the films she made in the early 1970s like "The Big Doll House" and "Coffy" was Sid Haig who plays the judge in "Jackie Brown". Sid's career would be resurrected 6 years later when Rob Zombie cast him as Captain Spaulding in his own homage to 70s trash cinema, "House of 1000 Corpses".

I just felt it was time someone support "Jackie Brown" for what it is...a damn good film.
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Schwabby09 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
Buddy, you are dead one this movie doesn't get enough praise. I glad to so some one else loves this movie as much as me.
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DaGaoPump Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
You know i've heard of this movie but never cared to watch. Watched it on Netflix yesterday and OMG! How stupid of me not watching this sooner. It was a GREAT movie! This is definitely my favorite Quentin Tarantino film forever now. Awesome drawing! Captures the movie greatly. C:

"Street Life, its the only life i know."
That song is so Jackie Brown! <3
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AlGatto Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Yes, finally, someone says it other than me. I think Jackie Brown is his best film ever. Every piece of dialogue in that film means something.
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smallebowski Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Across 110th street!
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Bokula Featured By Owner May 9, 2011
wooow!
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private-tee Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2010
Nice piece, big fan myself as well actually watched it again last night. The Beaumont scene blows me away every time.
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Player-Designer Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2010  Professional Interface Designer
Great work.
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NelsonHojax Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
the scene with robert deniro rocking in his chair to the woman singing had me and my friends on the floor....not to mention seeing chris tucker get wacked! I agree, this seems to be an overlooked feature of taratino's which is really rather excellent but doesn't get the respect it deserves. great work!
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KaffeTilFolket Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010
This is awesome!! Keep up tha sweet work /
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christophoebus Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2010
One of Tarantino's finestl... Great tribute
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divasdeacero Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
Hey! i came here for the art, but i stayed for the film class. Good appreciation of a still undiscovered film, by a wider audience that is.

The "main problem", if there is any, is that the film takes a really long time to build up, more than the standard Tarantino film. Even so, the payoff is just great. And i think with maybe the exception of Kill Bill, the cast on a Tarantino movie has never been so eclectic.
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clinteast Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
in my opinion "Jackie Brown" is Tarinto at his best. it's his real masterpiece(screw inglorious bastards)
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DarkBoris Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2009
You know, tell me if this is a ridiculous idea, but I think Quentin Tarantino should do a James Bond film. But I would want him to do it his way. Dialogue driven, realistically violent(as opposed to the absurd action sequences in typical James Bond films), and with the sort of cool feel he gave his first three films. Overall, less of a focus on action and more on dialogue and feel. And it wouldn't be starring Daniel Craig. I think if I could pick anyone, it would be Brad Pitt.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2009
I hate to do it but you suggested I tell you if I thought so, I think that would be ridiculous...lol. I never cared for James Bond films but all of that changed when the Daniel Craig films came along. Now I am a fan. Even though the Craig films are a different breed than the older ones, it still fits a certain formula. Brad Pitt is great but he wouldn't make a good Bond in my opinion. I'd maybe go for Clive Owen. I would maybe say Tarantino's buddy Robert Rodriguez would be a good match with a Bond film. In many ways, Tarantino already made his BOND movie with KILL BILL. Kill Bill was inspired by Modesty Blaise who of course was sort of the female James Bond. Quentin's never really said anything about Bond films. I'm not sure if he's a fan. So far he's made films inspired by the movies he likes. Reservoir Dogs was based on the heist films he adored like "Topkapi", "The Killing", "The Asphault Jungle" and "The Thomas Crowne Affair." Pulp was based on Quentin's love of pulp crime novels and the French cinema of Godard and Mellville. Jackie Brown was of course his Elmore Leonard/blaxploitation film. Kill Bill was his spaghetti western/assassin/kung-fu/samurai/revenge film. Death Proof was his slasher/car chase movie and Inglourious Basterds was his spaghetti western/WWII/Guys on a mission film. These are the genres he's talked about loving in the past. I honestly can't recall him ever claiming to be a fan of the James Bond films. Last I heard, he's going to make a prequel to Basterds. He seems to be a guy who is spontaneous. He will probably make a smaller film next. He decided to do "Death Proof" after "Kill Bill" because Kill Bill was such a huge task and it wore him out. "Basterds" was a big film so he may do something smaller next time. What that will be, who knows? I'd watch a Tarantino Bond film in a heartbeat--but I don't think the die hard fans would enjoy tons of talking and little action. Bond's strength has always been the action sequenes.
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DarkBoris Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2009
Well, I think if anyone would make a decent Bond film it would be him. By the way, I agree that Jackie Brown is hugely underrated.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2009
I will say that if Tarantino made a Bond film, it would be my all-time favorite Bond film.
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DarkBoris Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2009
Yeah. Anyways, I always make up my fantasy franken-films in my head. Among some others would be a dope spaghetti western with vampires and a film version of the Cormac Mcarthy novel Blood Meridian. (Not sure if you've heard of it.)
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2009
I own a copy of "Blood Meridian"--started reading it about a year ago but something came up and I had to put it down. I need to finish that one. McCarthy is an awesome writer.
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DarkBoris Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2009
It's always nice to meet someone who's aware of that novel's existance.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2009
My cousin introduced me to McCarthy's work about 5 years ago or so. The first book I read of his was "Child of God." Blew me away. Then I read "No Country for Old Men" and shortly after that "The Road" came out so I bought that and loved it (accept for the ending.) But I bought "Blood Merdian" while on vacation in Florida. I always keep an eye out for any of his books. I've seen the film version of "All the Pretty Horses" but haven't read the set of books it was based upon but want to. He's one of the greatest writers I have ever read and has influenced me quite a bit. I still think "No Country" is my favorite.
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wayne777 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2009
Absolutely Brilliant, and I agree with every word you say - Jackie Brown is an excellent movie ,criminally overlooked!
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I just read your amazing write-up and have a few brief remarks:

1) Not only did Keaton play the same character in both films you mention but he did so for two different movie studios which is extremely rare.
2) Robert Forster is also brilliant in the movie Diamond Men if you haven't seen it.
3) Spike Lee is not the voice of all things African American and needs to shut up somtetimes, even if he is also brilliant (I think his best movie btw is 25th hour which is not ethinically driven)
4) You can write. You should be a film critic.
5) You need to go to Seattle and visit Scarecrow Video and buy their home grown movie review book.

That's all. Great job.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Well thank you for actually reading that...lol. I haven't seen Diamond Men but will sure be checking it out soon. After Spike Lee tried to sue Spike TV I think it's safe to say no one's paying attention to him anymore. Thank you for the compliments on my writing. Especially since I don't proofread my little rants (I know there were so many misspellings and such in this). I actually am a writer of fiction. I have published 10 books (mostly graphic novels). I did dip my toe in journalism a bit last year for a magazine in which I wrote an ongoing article called "The Sequential Bastards" which features Indie Comic Book creators. I'd like to maybe get a gig as a movie critic but movie critics are such bastards and low lifes I don't think I'd want to join their lot. No one should be so powerful to decide whether or not art is worth seeing or worthless viewing. People have different tastes and I don't see any one person being special enough to tell people what's good or bad. When I write about films, I write about the ones I like. That's not to say I don't often express disappointment in some films. Thanks again.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Then you should start a blog to review movie critics. lol It probably already exists somewhere. I do some fiction writing myself. Not published yet but my time is coming.

One of my non-fiction projects is a movie review book that is sorted by performer not movie title. In other words, a review of the greatest performances by certain actors. If you follow DeNiro for example, his top performances would be reviewed as his own section. A movie like Glengarry Glen Ross would appear several times but reviewed from the standpoint of Pacino, Spacey, Lemmon, Harris, Arkin etc. Make sense? I have always wanted a book like that so I started working on one. Can't do every actor and every movie but I could do a lot of them. Sound like a good idea? Or a crappy one?
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Sounds great. I just watched Glengarry Glen Ross again the other day actually. So amazing and yes, you could fill a whole book talking about the actors in that film. It may be cliche but De Niro is easily my favorite actor ever. I just found so much of myself in him when I read his biography. I respect the hell out of him. "Taxi Driver" will always be my favorite film of his. But it's really impossible to put a finger on his very best performance. Where do you start? Deer Hunter, Raging Bull, Mean Streets, Godfather 2, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Casino, Awakenings, Once Upon a Time in America, Cape Fear, Heat...it's impossible. As far as Quentin, "Dogs" is not only my favorite but it's my over all favorite film ever. Perfect cast, perfect script...it doesn't get better.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Deniro is my favorite of all time too. I would say Raging Bull was his best but my god he was a force of nature in Mean Streets and Taxi Driver. I wish his work was as good in the last 10-12 years.

I feel slightly connected to him too. When I was studying Philosophy at Yale my mentor Maurice Natanson had studied with Oliver Sacks who was the basis for Robin William's character in Awakenings which starred Bobby D as you mention. Natanson regaled me with stories just like the ones from that movie. Awesome stuff. Sacks even came to visit the school once. He was a quite a character.

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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 7, 2009
Yeah, De Niro's films in the last decade haven't carried the same weight that his earlier work did. I think it's just a matter of time before he chooses a role that will echo his past glory. We need to see him hook back up with Scorsese but it seems old Marty is pretty much using Leonardo De Caprio exclusively these days. De Niro's had some decent moments in the past 12 years though. "Wag the Dog", "Jackie Brown", "Ronin" was one of the best action films of the 90s, it was silly but De Niro was halarious in "Analyze This", he was really good in "Flawless", "Men of Honor" wasn't bad, he made both "Meet the Parents" films worth watching, and he was really good in "Stardust". He hasn't lost anything, he just needs to avoid crap like "Righteous Kill", "Godsend" and "Showtime". At least he's doing better than Pacino. Pacino has been delivering the exact same performance again and again for the past decade.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 7, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Your analysis seems right on to me. I liked all of the movies you mentioned although I haven't finished Stardust and was not too impressed with Men of Honor. What was the horror movie he made? That one stunk too.

Your comment on Pacino is well taken too. He's been screaming his roles. Have you ever seen the movie Two Bits? Now THAT was acting.

I can't complain about the pairing of Scorsese and DiCaprio. The kid can act and MS always does good work. I would like to see Scorsese work with Pacino. See what he could get out of him.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 8, 2009
Oh my comment on Di Caprio was not to insult Scorsese's use of him. I am a fan of Leo as well. He definitely is one of our finest young actors. I have yet to see him do anything wrong. Di Caprio is a great talent and he and Marty have made some great films together. I was only pointing out that Marty seems to be turning Leo into his new Bobby D.

I haven't seen Two Bits but I will have to. I liked Pacino's work back in the 70s but ever since "Scent of a Woman" it's just Whoo Haaa! Yeah, Men of Honor was just okay, nothing substantial. Pacino and Scorsese...funny that's never happened. Oh well, never say never. He finally got around to working with Nicholson and boy did that turn out amazing.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
By the way, I went to grade school with Robert Rodriguez's sister Angela. He was 3 or 4 years behind me.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
That's cool. Is she the one who played the cowgirl in Sin City?
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's the other sister Patricia who is actually a pretty damn good singer and guitarist. She performs under the last name Vonne (which is actually her middle name) and lives in Austin. Angela played the tourist who complains about service to Cheech Marin at the bar in Desperado. Angela also sings. She plays a Cuban singer in fact in the movie The Perez Family. The whole family was sickeningly talented like that. Robert plays a mean guitar and composes music as you surely know.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Angela drank the beer that tasted like piss then huh? "We piss in it!" Definitenly a talented bunch.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's her. She about drove me crazy in grade school. But now I think I should have married her. One of a thousand regrets....lol
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You sir are a genius. I haven't read all the narrative yet but I will. I know this: Jackie Brown may be Tarantino's best film.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Good to see some love for Jackie Brown. While I love the film, I still love Dogs, Pulp and Kill Bill more. But I was always shocked at how Jackie Brown is looked upon as being bad. I loved the film, thought it was great when it was first released and everytime I watch it I see nothing at all wrong with it. It's a perfect film. Maybe it lacks the cadence of Dogs, the uniqness of Pulp and the flare of Kill Bill but it's special in it's own way.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
All of that is true. I love Pulp, KB and especially Dogs. And the first time I saw JB I reacted with a shrug...but everytime I sit down to watch I am surprised how much is really going on...and the performances are so amazing. Your defense of the movie hits home for me.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 7, 2009
Just looked up De Niro's future projects. Looks like he's starring in a Michael Mann film called "Frankie Machine" where he plays a mafia hit man. That should be something to look forward to since Mann is one of the best filmmakers around and their collaboration on "Heat" was very substantial. I see he's also providing his voice for a video game based on "Heat".
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 7, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's excellent news. I loved Heat although there were a few parts that dragged for me. I think it gets better with repeated viewings. Mann knows what he is doing for the most part. I just started re-watching Thief last night. (I tend to watch several movies at once - damn DVR and OCD).
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 8, 2009
I love Mann's work. Really looking forward to seeing "Public Enemies". I mean, Depp and Bale in the same film...definitely a treat. Yes, Heat was a bit too long, it's only flaw. I'm a real big fan of "Manhunter". The remake was good and all but I still prefer Mann's version of Red Dragon. "Collateral" was tops as well. Mann's just one of those filmmakers who captures reality with a side of glitz. It feels real, but it also feels heightened a tad. He's a great filmmaker and I have high hopes for his new movie with De Niro.
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LAReal Featured By Owner May 13, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Manhunter is way better than Red Dragon. I actually read Red Dragin before Silence came out...one of the best books I ever read. Mann is pretty much a genius. He has real gifts for setting a scene. One can debate Will Smith's performance in Ali but it is hard to argue with the blocking of most of the scenes.
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MalevolentNate Featured By Owner May 14, 2009
I read Red Dragon right after Silence came out and then I saw Manhunter when Silence debuted on cable. Red Dragon was my favorite novel for years and yes, Mann's "Manhunter" is much better. Brian Cox made an interesting and dare I say it, much more believable Hannibal Lecter. Back to actors, Jack Nicholson isn't in my top twenty either. One of my top 5 actors we haven't mentioned yet is Robert Duvall---the man is a tour de force.
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